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German Layout #47

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Monstanner opened this issue Jul 18, 2024 · 9 comments
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German Layout #47

Monstanner opened this issue Jul 18, 2024 · 9 comments
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@Monstanner
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Monstanner commented Jul 18, 2024

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I don't know which layout you want to take over from Simple Keyboard. However, in 5.4.8 umlaut keys was implemented as separate keys. I also proposed a feature request at the time. Unfortunately, however, things turned out differently. My suggestion was that theoretically two layouts for German should be offered. Because the 5.4.8 layout is more or less the keyboard on the PC / laptop. The layout of 5.4.7 was ok, but not perfect, because the umlaut keys in the pop up characters had to be manually selected by swiping. For example, if you press long on the a key, the default is á instead of ä. Same for u and o. Instead of ü and ö, 7 and 9 are the choice. Those were just the things that I missed. That's why I would say that everything about the German layout should be collected here first, if there were maybe other things about Simple Keyboard and the German layout that I didn't notice.

Why do you want this feature?

It would solve the lack of a German layout.

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Edit: Fix typos

@Monstanner Monstanner added feature request Issue is about a new feature in the app needs triage Issue is not yet ready for PR authors to take up labels Jul 18, 2024
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@naveensingh
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I don't know which layout you want to take over from Simple Keyboard. However, in 5.4.8 umlaut keys was implemented as separate keys.

Isn't the layout from 5.4.8 already there in Fossify Keyboard? No keyboard layouts have been removed. In Fossify Keyboard, you have to enable additional keyboard languages from 'Settings -> Manage keyboard languages':

Simple Keyboard (German) vs Fossify Keyboard (German):

@naveensingh
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In Fossify Keyboard, you have to enable additional keyboard languages from 'Settings -> Manage keyboard languages'

We might have to rethink this behavior though. The app should detect and enable the local language by default.

@Monstanner
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Monstanner commented Jul 18, 2024

I don't know which layout you want to take over from Simple Keyboard. However, in 5.4.8 umlaut keys was implemented as separate keys.

Isn't the layout from 5.4.8 already there in Fossify Keyboard? No keyboard layouts have been removed. In Fossify Keyboard, you have to enable additional keyboard languages from 'Settings -> Manage keyboard languages':

Simple Keyboard (German) vs Fossify Keyboard (German):

Thanks for the hint, I overlooked it. Yes, it's the 5.4.8 layout, which is not really good in my opinion, as described above.

@Monstanner
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I don't know how long we should go on until someone else contributes here. I therefore summarize here again what I think should be changed.

  • German layout of version 5.4.7
  • The pop-up characters of a, o and u should not be á, 9 and 7, but ä, ü and ö
  • If you click on the number layout, it should be a € instead of a $. (This is a new one, but I missed it when opening the issue.)

You could consider whether you have two German layouts with and without extra umlaut keys, but with the € change, so that you don't have any fragmentation. At least if that's not too much work.

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nice42q commented Oct 8, 2024

The ß is missing. Should be under S (Hold/press the Key).

@Monstanner
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The ß is missing. Should be under S (Hold/press the Key).

It is present in the 5.4.7 and 5.4.8 (Probably also in 5.4.9) layout. Did you possibly make the same mistake as me and did not select the German layout? @naveensingh pointed this out to me. Or do you mean the capital ß? Because then you're right, because when you hold down the capital S, a double S appears, which should become the capital ß (ẞ).

For comparison (I didn't put it in code brackets because it looked strange.):

Here is the big sharp S: ẞ
Here is the small sharp S: ß

@nice42q
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nice42q commented Oct 8, 2024

Here is the big sharp S: ẞ Here is the small sharp S: ß

Only the small one is needed. There is no German word that begins with ß. Changed the language and found it. Thank you

@Monstanner
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Here is the big sharp S: ẞ Here is the small sharp S: ß

Only the small one is needed. There is no German word that begins with ß. Changed the language and found it. Thank you

No problem. However, you contributed to the fact that I noticed the difference with the small and large ß. I thank you for that. It is true that no German word begins with a capital ß. But if a word is written completely in capital letters, it can be helpful. You would have to consider whether it is really needed. In my opinion, the option should be kept open.

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sberlin commented Oct 24, 2024

Having the umlauts as separate keys is not helping at all when switching from Gboard. It seems like this commit needs to be partly reverted: 4f10e4a

Here's the initial request for change SimpleMobileTools/Simple-Keyboard#226, that is IMO not representative for Android usage in Germany.

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