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i would like to seek clarification regarding the time step calculation described in the simulator.pdf documentation for musen. The document states:
"For the systems which are consisting only from primary particles, the recommended time step is calculated based on Rayleigh time $$T_{Rayleigh}$$."
"If the scene consists of primary particles, as well as solid bonds, the recommended simulation time step is calculated as 10% of $$\min{(T_{Rayleigh}, T_{sim,bond})}$$."
However, it seems that the recommended time step calculated within musen is always $$0.1 T_{Rayleigh}$$, regardless of whether bonds are being used or not.
I created a test case using the standard glass material from the materials database. For a simulation with a single sphere of diameter $D = 1 mm (R = 0.0005 m), E = 5e10Nm^{-2}, \rho =2500 kg m^{-3}$ and $\nu = 0,22$ i calculate a recommended time step of $T_{Rayleigh} = 6,01e-07 s$. However the recommended time step within musen is 6,01e-08 s.
Test Case
Here is a simple test that you can import as text to check this behavior. After deleting the bond, the recommended time step remains the same.
Hi, @juwoha, I fixed the docu, here are the currently used equations. The recommended step is calculated as $dt_{recommended}=0.1 * min(T_{Rayleigh}, T_{bond})$
So, if you calculate $T_{Rayleigh}=6.01e-7$, then the recommended time step should indeed be 0.1 * 6.01e-7 = 6.01e-8.
Now, the bonds. Currently, $T_{bond} > T_{Rayleigh}$, so the bond does not have influence. Change the material of the bond to Steel, and you will notice the changes in the recommended time step.
I think I was partially confused by the small error in the formula as well as my poor English. I understood the term "as well as" as "and" or "plus", not "both X or Y".
Thank you for your remarks! The uncertainty is gone, so the topic can be closed.
Hello everyone,
i would like to seek clarification regarding the time step calculation described in the
simulator.pdf
documentation for musen. The document states:The equations provided are as follows:
However, it seems that the recommended time step calculated within musen is always$$0.1 T_{Rayleigh}$$ , regardless of whether bonds are being used or not.
I created a test case using the standard glass material from the materials database. For a simulation with a single sphere of diameter$D = 1 mm (R = 0.0005 m), E = 5e10Nm^{-2}, \rho =2500 kg m^{-3}$ and $\nu = 0,22$ i calculate a recommended time step of $T_{Rayleigh} = 6,01e-07 s$ . However the recommended time step within musen is 6,01e-08 s.
Test Case
Here is a simple test that you can import as text to check this behavior. After deleting the bond, the recommended time step remains the same.
Am I making a mistake somewhere? I would be very happy if someone could clarify.
Environment:
Windows 10
MUSEN version 1.74.1 installed via open setup installer
Many thanks and best regards
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