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Update multimedia section of accessibility guidance (partial) #928
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Note: put this to AWG too: Use HTML rather than PDFs or other non-HTML documentsAvoid using PDFs or other non-HTML documents as they are not accessible. If you must use them, make sure the content is also available in HTML form. Read more about PDFs and other non-HTML documents in the content style guide. |
Amelia will take this bit to the next AWG meeting for approval before we amend the accessibility guidance partial. |
Put in review column pending AWG approval. |
A small cautionary note: the 'don't use .PDF' advice seems to have been misinterpreted by some folks as 'it's better to use open document format than PDF for forms'. Might be good to include a line about forms being a special case - still better as HTML than as PDF, but PDF is likely to be better than NOT having the form available. |
Hi Caroline, the latest guidance will say this:
But for forms (i.e. anything used for "business processes"), it will say the following:
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No, unfortunately I disagree with this. For example, last week I got a paper letter from my GP enclosing a poor photocopy of a paper form. IF the form had been available as an accessible .pdf on a website or as an email attachment then it would be much more convenient and accessible. A Defra colleague has been doing investigations of using open document format forms, and they have severe limitations to the point of being unusable for anyone who tries to open them in an ordinary word processor such as Word. I believe it is NOT realistic to tell people that they must publish in HTML for a vast quantity of low-use forms, forms generated by people without access to a digital team, or teams who are making a determined effort to deal with higher-priority processes. I think we need to accept that accessible PDF is a useful interim format that is more accessible than paper, which is what will be used instead. |
If you have research on how to create good forms in open document format that can be used by people who only have standard word processing software such as Microsoft Word or Google Docs, then please share it. I'm very happy to have my mind changed about this but so far have been unable to find any user research other than the work done by my Defra colleague. |
Thanks @cjforms. We have now published our updated guidance: https://service-manual.nhs.uk/content/pdfs-and-other-non-html-documents/ Can I check? It sounds like your concern is that people will use ODFs rather than PDFs or HTML? We're saying that, for forms, we expect people to use HTML. We don't recommend ODFs as an alternative to forms. But perhaps the page isn't clear enough? When we mention ODFs at the top of the page, it's about editing documents and I understood 'documents' to mean collaborative documents, rather than forms: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-standards-for-government/sharing-or-collaborating-with-government-documents. Maybe we need to make that clearer. I'm seeing a fair amount of GOV.UK chat about problems with ODFs at the moment. I haven't seen people using ODFs in the NHS though and we don't have any research on this. We've been taking advice from Alistair Duggin (accessibility expert). If people create PDFs correctly and save them in PDF/A (archiving) format, they can meet WCAG 2.1 AA. But he says there is no guarantee that doing this will make them meet the accessibility needs of our users in the way that HTML can. That's why we're steering people away from PDFs and other non-HTML docs in general. You say that it's not realistic to expect everyone to replace their old PDFs but that is the expectation now and we know that teams use this page to persuade stakeholders to go down the HTML route. We do still allow for PDFs in some rare cares - there are some examples on the page - but that's as well as an HTML page. |
Exactly. I only recently learned about the problems of using ODFs rather than PDFs or HTML for forms. Of course I'm in favour of using HTML when that's feasible, but I'm definitely afraid that colleagues will interpret this guidance as 'you can't publish a .PDF form' and therefore decide not to publish, or to restrict their choice to paper (which is highly inaccessible for some people, although I still defend paper as an acceptable choice for others). I agree with Alistair. In fact, I think we all agree. Only I don't think the advice makes it clear. Here's what we agree on:
Can we make the guidance have a specific section on forms that aligns with that? |
By the way, I don't know of any research anywhere on ODT forms apart from the investigations done by my colleague at Defra. I'm hunting. |
Thanks @cjforms. I'm going to copy your above message into the PDF issue. I won't be able to take it forward immediately, but will create a ticket in our internal backlog to review over coming weeks. |
Thanks, that's great. I only found out about this problem a couple of weeks ago from my colleague Martin Glancy at Defra. I think we'll be working on it for a while - he may comment on this thread, too, and I'll alert him to the other one as well. |
Do you know if Martin is in touch with the GOV.UK content community chats about this on Basecamp? Or do you have a content designer with access to Basecamp chat? |
Linked to accessibility guidance epic: #669 |
Copy iterated with Rich Kelly, taking on board comments from members of the Accessibility Working Group and Alistair Duggin. Rich will run latest version by them again. |
Iterated content with Rich. Ellen to run by deaf awareness group to check no issues with content. If OK, it's ready to publish. We'll double check it with AWG at next meeting. |
Comment from Alistair: |
PR ready for review. Rich Kelly and a content designer to proof the content in staging environment. |
All proofed. Ready to release. |
What
After a query via the service manual Slack channel, Rich Kelly has identified that our guidance on video audio, captions, transcripts needs updating.
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