diff --git a/runtime/pointers.ts b/runtime/pointers.ts
index 14f6e23f..8c6145af 100644
--- a/runtime/pointers.ts
+++ b/runtime/pointers.ts
@@ -2119,7 +2119,13 @@ export class Pointer<T = any> extends Ref<T> {
         this.id = id ?? Pointer.getUniquePointerID(this) // set id
         this.#is_placeholder = false; // after id change
         // first time actual visible pointer
-        for (let l of Pointer.pointer_add_listeners) l(this);
+        for (const l of Pointer.pointer_add_listeners) l(this);
+        // pointer for id listeners
+        if (Pointer.pointer_for_id_created_listeners.has(this.id)) {
+            for (const l of Pointer.pointer_for_id_created_listeners.get(this.id)!) l(this);
+            Pointer.pointer_for_id_created_listeners.delete(this.id)
+        }
+
     }
 
     // set id if not set initially set
@@ -2129,6 +2135,7 @@ export class Pointer<T = any> extends Ref<T> {
         // if (!this.is_placeholder && this.id !== undefined && !Pointer.#local_pointers.has(this)) {
         //     // console.log("TODO: pointer transfer map")
         // }
+        // is id transfer for placeholder, trigger value init
 
         if (typeof id == "string") {
             // convert string to buffer
@@ -2271,7 +2278,6 @@ export class Pointer<T = any> extends Ref<T> {
      * @param v initial value
      */
     protected initializeValue(v:RefOrValue<T>, is_transform?:boolean) {
-
         let val = Ref.collapseValue(v,true,true);
 
         if (typeof val == "symbol" && Symbol.keyFor(val) !== undefined) {
diff --git a/types/function-utils.ts b/types/function-utils.ts
index dfaedfd5..07685ab5 100644
--- a/types/function-utils.ts
+++ b/types/function-utils.ts
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+import { LazyPointer } from "../runtime/lazy-pointer.ts";
 import { callWithMetadata, callWithMetadataAsync, getMeta } from "../utils/caller_metadata.ts";
 import { RuntimeError } from "./errors.ts";
 
@@ -134,12 +135,48 @@ const isArrowFunction = (fnSrc:string) => {
 	return !!fnSrc.match(/^(async\s+)?\([^)]*\)\s*=>/)
 }
 
+function resolveLazyDependencies(deps:Record<string,unknown>) {
+    for (const [key, value] of Object.entries(deps)) {
+        if (value instanceof LazyPointer) value.onLoad((v) => {
+            deps[key] = v
+        });
+    }
+}
+
+function assertLazyDependenciesResolved(deps:Record<string,unknown>) {
+    for (const [key, value] of Object.entries(deps)) {
+        // TODO non js-Function specific error
+        if (value instanceof LazyPointer) throw new Error("Cannot call <js:Function>, dependency variable '"+key+"' is not yet initialized")
+    }
+}
+
+/**
+ * Create a new function from JS source code with injected dependency variables
+ * Also resolves LazyPointer dependencies
+ * @param source 
+ * @param dependencies 
+ * @returns 
+ */
+export function createFunctionWithDependencyInjectionsResolveLazyPointers(source: string, dependencies: Record<string, unknown>): ((...args:unknown[]) => unknown) {
+    let fn: Function|undefined;
+
+    const intermediateFn = (...args:any[]) => {
+        if (!fn) {
+            assertLazyDependenciesResolved(dependencies);
+            fn = createFunctionWithDependencyInjections(source, dependencies)
+        }
+        return fn(...args)
+    }
+    resolveLazyDependencies(dependencies)
+    return intermediateFn;
+}
 
 /**
  * Create a new function from JS source code with injected dependency variables
  * @param source 
  * @param dependencies 
  * @returns 
+ * @deprecated use createFunctionWithDependencyInjectionsResolveLazyPointers
  */
 export function createFunctionWithDependencyInjections(source: string, dependencies: Record<string, unknown>): ((...args:unknown[]) => unknown) {
 	const hasThis = Object.keys(dependencies).includes('this');
diff --git a/types/js-function.ts b/types/js-function.ts
index ba02cf56..bf3c25c8 100644
--- a/types/js-function.ts
+++ b/types/js-function.ts
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 import { LazyPointer } from "../runtime/lazy-pointer.ts";
 import { Pointer } from "../runtime/pointers.ts";
 import { Runtime } from "../runtime/runtime.ts";
-import { ExtensibleFunction, getDeclaredExternalVariables, getDeclaredExternalVariablesAsync, createFunctionWithDependencyInjections, getSourceWithoutUsingDeclaration, Callable } from "./function-utils.ts";
+import { ExtensibleFunction, getDeclaredExternalVariables, getDeclaredExternalVariablesAsync, getSourceWithoutUsingDeclaration, Callable, createFunctionWithDependencyInjectionsResolveLazyPointers } from "./function-utils.ts";
 
 
 export type JSTransferableFunctionOptions = {
@@ -32,32 +32,15 @@ export class JSTransferableFunction extends ExtensibleFunction {
 				if (origin !== Runtime.endpoint && !Runtime.trustedEndpoints.get(origin)?.includes("remote-js-execution")) {
 					throw new Error("Cannot execute js:Function, origin "+origin+" has no permission to execute js source code on this endpoint");
 				}
-				this.assertLazyDependenciesResolved();
-				if (this.deps.this) return intermediateFn.apply(this.deps.this, args)
-				else return intermediateFn(...args)
+				return intermediateFn(...args)
 			}
 			super(fn);
-			this.resolveLazyDependencies(); // make sure LazyPointer deps are resolved
 			this.#fn = fn;
 		}
 		
 		this.source = source;
 	}
 
-	private resolveLazyDependencies() {
-		for (const [key, value] of Object.entries(this.deps)) {
-			if (value instanceof LazyPointer) value.onLoad((v) => this.deps[key] = v);
-		}
-	}
-
-	#resolved = false;
-	private assertLazyDependenciesResolved() {
-		if (this.#resolved) return true;
-		for (const [key, value] of Object.entries(this.deps)) {
-			if (value instanceof LazyPointer) throw new Error("Cannot call <js:Function>, dependency variable '"+key+"' is not yet initialized")
-		}
-		this.#resolved = true;
-	}
 
 	call(...args:any[]) {
 		return this.#fn(...args)
@@ -110,7 +93,7 @@ export class JSTransferableFunction extends ExtensibleFunction {
 	}
 
 	static #createTransferableFunction(source: string, dependencies: Record<string, unknown>, flags?: string[], options?:JSTransferableFunctionOptions) {
-        const intermediateFn = createFunctionWithDependencyInjections(source, dependencies);
+        const intermediateFn = createFunctionWithDependencyInjectionsResolveLazyPointers(source, dependencies);
 		return new JSTransferableFunction(intermediateFn, dependencies, source, flags, options);
 	}