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CNCF TAG Environmental Sustainability - APAC meeting notes

Welcome to the CNCF TAG Environmental Sustainability APAC meetings! This group focuses on promoting sustainable practices within the cloud-native ecosystem.

Quick Links

Biweekly Meetings

We meet every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at:

  • 12PM GMT
  • 5:30 AM PT

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Slack Channel

Join us on Slack: #tag-environmental-sustainability

Working Groups

Communications Working Group

  • Meeting Time: Thursday, 11AM EST (5pm GMT +2:00)
  • Slack Channel: #tag-env-wg-comms

Green Reviews Working Group

  • Meeting Time: Every 2nd & 4th Wednesday, 5pm GMT +2:00, 8AM Pacific, 11AM Eastern
  • Slack Channel: #tag-env-wg-green-reviews

Additional working group meetings may be scheduled and will be announced on the #tag-environmental-sustainability Slack channel, as well as in the TAG Environmental Sustainability CNCF calendar.

TAG Environmental Sustainability Leads

Name Role GitHub Slack E-mail Company
Leonard Pahlke Chair @leonardpahlke leonardpahlke Leonard Pahlke Liquid Reply
Marlow Weston Chair @catblade MarlowWeston catblade@gmail.com Intel
Max Körbächer Chair @mkorbi mkorbi m.koerbaecher@reply.de Liquid Reply
Kristina Devochko Tech Lead @guidemetothemoon happyunicorrrn Tietoevry
Saiyam Pathak Tech Lead @saiyam1814 saiyampathak saiyam911@gmail.com

How This Meeting Works

This GitHub Readme is open for edit. We encourage suggestions for upcoming meeting topics. If there are none 24 hours before the meeting, we may propose canceling on our Slack channel and mailing list.

Action Items recorded in the meeting will be turned into GitHub issues and assigned to the TAG project board. The meeting is recorded and posted to our YouTube Playlist before the end of the week. A host moderates the meeting, and we encourage hand-raising instead of interrupting.

We adhere to the CNCF Code of Conduct.

Meeting Agenda Template

Tusday Day Month 2024 Meeting

Host:
Notes:
Attendees:

Recurring Topics:

  • Code of Conduct
  • Welcome any new members or attendees
  • Working Groups
    • WG Comms [meeting notes]
    • WG Green Reviews [meeting notes] [issue board]
  • Projects
    • Best practices for environmentally sustainable K8s clusters "tracking issue" "issue board"
    • Landscape Document Rewrite v2 [tracking issue]
    • GreenScraper [tracking issue]
    • Cloud Native Sustainability Learning Path [tracking issue]
    • Cloud Native Sustainability Week 2024 [tracking issue]
  • Planned Presentation(s):
  • Open Discussion:
    • [NAME] TOPIC
    • Anything we parked for later?
    • Anything not on the agenda?
    • Check the TAG project board

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Tuesday 6th august 2024 Meeting

Host: Saiyam Pathak Notes: Saiyam Pathak Attendees:

- Saiyam Pathak
- Sam Yuan
- Pang
- Aravind

  • Code of Conduct

  • Welcome any new members or attendees - Aravind

  • China having national holiday first week of October

    • to host maybe in September or November with some support from CNCF/LF - Sam setup meeting with LF member for Friday. Started working with local volunteers, leaders, CNCF and also cohost from kubecon China. Trying to get more sponsors to get the meetup. last year - kepler , basic ops integrations, basic sustainability concepts. This year - trying to get local CNCF member/voluteer already working on sustainability practices for more practical implementations. Scope - more focus on communication, if not more sponsors then do it smaller level else bigger level , a day event. (3rd or 4th week of October)

    • Blog posts to be tracked, create an issue(SCI, Kepler), start writing and then TAG members review + publish: SCI metrics, translation blog merged, the blog to be published to social media. - Merged Blog for China only - Another blog in progress by Sam for APAC meeting, sustainable meet for more people to join in progress - published Suggestion by Saiyam - APAC team meetign member, Joint blog and then you can translate in Chinese and distribute locally. Banner issue - In China, reluctant to use the banner of the current cloud native sustainability week that might lead to potential political risks. (Nancy to sync up to see if Banner can be edited to avoid political conflicts) - check with Nancy for update

  • Projects

  • Planned Presentation(s): https://github.com/sustainable-computing-io/kepler-metal-ci/actions - updates form Kepler team, good progress made.

  • Open Discussion: Start new project discussions - Where to contirbute - Aravind

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Tuesday 9th July 2024 Meeting

Host: Saiyam Pathak Notes: Saiyam Pathak Attendees:

- Saiyam Pathak
- Sam Yuan
- Nancy
- Anita
- Leon

  • Code of Conduct

  • Welcome any new members or attendees - Nancy, Anita, Leon

  • China having national holiday first week of October

    • to host maybe in September or November with some support from CNCF/LF - Sam setup meeting with LF member for Friday.
    • Blog posts to be tracked, create an issue(SCI, Kepler), start writing and then TAG members review + publish: SCI metrics, translation blog merged, the blog to be published to social media. Blog for China only - Another blog in progress by Sam for APAC meeting, sustainable meet for more people to join in progress. Suggestion by Saiyam - APAC team meetign member, Joint blog and then you can translate in Chinese and distribute locally. Banner issue - In China, reluctant to use the banner of the current cloud native sustainability week that might lead to potential political risks. (Nancy to sync up to see if Banner can be edited to avoid political conflicts)

  • Projects

  • Planned Presentation(s):

    • Kepler project CI - very similar to WG Greens
      • Kepler team Green Review WG UPDATE - for reuse with kepler CI, we had a discussion in slack, but it seems kepler's CI is on fundamental level, progress level... some difference with TAG's CI, let's see how to reuse them in the feature? Setup everything from zero - including Kubernetes TAG - already have a Kubernetes cluster workload orcehstration - Github repo and Tekton(this can be reused by other projects eg Istio) Kepler has its own set of workload and TAG has their own workload orchestration. TAG Green reviews and Kepler agree to do some implementation in CI like dashboard or metrics or functionality or calculation. Suggestion - Can we write up a post on how the Kepler CI is being done (Saiyam): First the kepler community will focus on creating a sample repo with pipelines(tekton based) that start from zero with all steps to replicate it for projects and then to put that in a blog. Also to propose this to mentor.mentee program is in thoughts, Also opn for suggestions and discussions. Kepler to validate Kelper itself is the first goal to be achieved! accuracy and kepler CI demos

  • Open Discussion:

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Tuesday 25thh June 2024 Meeting

Host: Saiyam Pathak Notes: Saiyam Pathak Attendees:

  • Sunyanan Choochotkaew

  • Sam Yuan

  • Leo

  • Saiyam

  • Xuezhao

  • Code of Conduct

  • Welcome any new members or attendees - 1 new member :)

  • Adding the organizer guide on website for cloud native sustainability week

  • China having national holiday first week of October

    • to host maybe in September or November with some support from CNCF/LF
    • Blog posts to be tracked, create an issue(SCI, Kepler), start writing and then TAG members review + publish

  • Projects

    • Best practices for environmentally sustainable K8s clusters "tracking issue" "issue board" - update provided by Saiyam
    • Landscape Document Rewrite v2 - Looking to restructure and looking for contributors
    • GreenScraper - Going well, feel free to get involved - update given by Saiyam
    • Cloud Native Sustainability Learning Path - PAUSED
    • Cloud Native Sustainability Week 2024 github link - Going well, feel free to get involved - Updte given by Leo

  • Planned Presentation(s):

    • Kepler project CI - very similar to WG Greens
      • Kepler team Green Review WG
      • How can Kepler team work alongside Kepler team to make sure they are notwokring towards a same thing in a different way.
      • Reuse Kepler existing pipeline to generate report on maybe project like istio
      • k8s with prometheus and stuff deployed can be used as well
      • WG Greens already have goals defined and we can remove some parts form WG towards kepler CI to create as a product to be used by wider projects.
      • Goals of Kepler CI
      • Maybe Kepler to reuse Green review tooling
      • Issue to be looked by Kepler team issue, Design proposal

  • Open Discussion:

    • Main TODO is - Kepler team to get in touch with Green reviews Leads to chat more on this and even involve in detained discussio/call
    • Tool posted by Pang scer

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Tuesday 11th June 2024 Meeting

Host: Saiyam Pathak Notes: Saiyam Pathak Attendees:

  • Saloni Narang

  • Saiyam Pathak

  • Sunyanan Choochotkaew

  • Sam Yuan

  • Vandit Pandya

  • Leonard Pahlke

  • Aakash Nagpal

  • Code of Conduct

  • Welcome any new members or attendees - Done (Kepler maintainers, new joiners joined)

  • Projects

    • Best practices for environmentally sustainable K8s clusters "tracking issue" "issue board"
    • Landscape Document Rewrite v2 - Looking to restructure and looking for contributors
      • Landscape already exists Link
      • [Github link for landscape document] (https://github.com/cncf/tag-env-sustainability/tree/main/website/content/en/landscape)
      • New iteration on how the project will look like to understand and dig better into the landscape
      • New projects, ideas, more projects tracking and how to include them in the landscape
      • Process for adding a project to the landscape
      • Tiles like structuring (maybe)
      • Create a new GitHub issue for landscape v2 so that people can add more resources (TODO)
    • GreenScraper - Going well, feel free to get involved
    • Cloud Native Sustainability Learning Path - Looking to restructure and looking for contributors
      • Resources availanle from Green foundation , need someone to structure it well.
      • Right now thinking to freeze
    • Cloud Native Sustainability Week 2024 github link - Going well, feel free to get involved
      • Vandit wants to join and will be trying to team up or organize as suggested by Leo.
      • Can we host on comunity.cncf.io? or meetup? - Yes we can host there and use bevy platfrom

  • Planned Presentation(s):

    • NA for this one, for next one we will create issue going forward or slack thread.

  • Open Discussion:

    • Leo

      • Project updates - Once a month would be great (specialy Kepler)
      • Discussion on research topics - Show and tell
      • Create issue for each meeting to add what needs to be discussed, slack thread ? open to discussion
      • CI discussion and getting metrics, benchmarking, grafana dashboard => need expert inputs
      • What is working in projects, timeline, challenges and help needed.
      • Every project has labels and there is a project board post KubeCon
      • Need more people to lead the projects
      • One more host for the meeting

    • Pang

      • Summary of main meeting or highlights
      • Draft any questions where opinions required
      • Validate power model for CI to find the reported number is correct or not
      • Fixed a few issues

    • Sam

      • green review wg - CI stuff => Kepler team to catchup and check CI between both and collaborate to make them better
      • Updated paper in [landscape ticket] (cncf#413 (comment))
      • Want to know more about current project dashboard updates, project update highlights maybe? - We can pick projects and ask the leads to join APAC meeting - Leo
      • Cross timezone discussion sync

    • Saiyam

      • Github issue walthrough - once a month?
      • Highlights of the issues

Question - Was the meeting useful +1 from ALL :)

General mote: Impact <> People Interested <> Collaboration <> working roadmap <> People contribute <> move to end goal