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Hello everyone,
this is the lane focus channel.
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My name is Paul.
Thank you for tuning in.
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Okay.
When refining and improving your own
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approach to learning languages,
it's always great to look at people who
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have done it before.
People have already done it very
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successfully and model what they're
doing,
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copy what they're doing,
copied their strategies for learning and
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their approach to learning,
their attitudes,
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to learning all of those things.
I've met a lot of people who are great
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with languages while traveling and also
in my regular life and I'd like to talk
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about a couple of particularly
impressive people that we can learn
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something from now.
This goes back to my first time visiting
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Egypt in 1997.
I was in a backpack of resort called the
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hub and I met a number of Bedouin girls
who were there just selling bracelets
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that were selling little trinkets,
souvenirs to tourists like me.
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We would go and sit on the beach and
these little beach side restaurant,
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a cushions laid out on the beach.
People would serve you food and these
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better when girls would just wander in
off the street and try to sell us
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bracelets.
Now what was interesting was I sat there
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and I watched these girls switch between
multiple different languages in the
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space of like five minutes.
I would give them,
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speak English with lots of people.
Then they would switch to French without
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skipping a beat and then they would
switch to Spanish.
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They would switch to Italian,
they would switch to Hebrew,
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they would switch to numerous different
languages.
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German,
uh,
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I think I even heard them speak Korean
and Japanese now.
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I was wondering how would these young
girls,
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like eight year old bedouin girls who
probably don't have much education,
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how would they be able to speak eight
different languages or 10 different
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languages or whatever it was.
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So that got me thinking about what makes
them successful and great with
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languages.
So how do they do it?
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How do these eight year old Bedouin
girls learn languages way better than
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your average college student in the
Western World?
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Well,
I think there were three main areas that
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I identified that we can learn from when
we look at these girls.
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The first one is obviously their
motivation,
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right?
They have a strong economic incentive to
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learn that language.
They come from a poor background.
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They live in a poor area or your only
source of income.
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Their source of their livelihood is
tourism.
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They have to speak foreign languages in
order to get by and the more languages
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they can speak,
the more potential customers they can
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communicate with,
the more money they bring up,
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so they have that economic incentive.
Most of us living in the west,
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we already have quite a cushy existence.
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We can't quite imagine what it's like to
have that economic motivation to learn.
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One of the interesting things I've heard
about these young kids who are selling
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souvenirs is that they're not allowed to
go home to their house until they sell a
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certain amount of souvenirs.
They can't go home and have dinner until
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they sell 20 bracelets or something like
that.
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So imagine that they have that positive
incentive of making money,
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but they also have that negative
incentive of being punished basically
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for not selling enough.
So that really motivates them to just do
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whatever it takes.
Right.
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So they have no excuses,
they make no excuses for themselves,
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they just go out and do it because they
have to.
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They really have choice.
So they find whatever it takes,
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whatever resources they have inside
themselves to learn.
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Now that's quite different from your
average western person who whines and
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cries and says,
I can't learn languages.
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It's too hard.
It takes too much time.
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I have to study.
I want to watch TV instead of these kids
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actually go out and just do it because
they have no choice.
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And if you decide to do that,
you can do that too.
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So that's one thing we can learn from
them.
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It's not only these better when kids
either.
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I mean in other developing countries
I've been to.
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I've noticed the same thing when I was
in Cambodia,
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when I was in Indonesia when I was in
Thailand.
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People who just have that economic
incentive,
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they don't have the same mental blocks
toward learning languages that people
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enrich countries do.
They just do whatever it takes.
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They have that survival mentality and
they just go for it.
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The second thing is that they're skilled
are based in practical experience right
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from the start.
They're not sitting at home or sitting
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in a classroom getting kind of
theoretical experience or simulated
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experience.
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They're out there getting real
experience face to face with people
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using the language right from the start.
Now that's different from the way most
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of us learn.
We might learn from textbooks or in a
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classroom.
We're learning theoretically in a
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simulated sort of context and then later
when we have a certain level of the
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language,
we go out and try to apply it with real
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people.
That's kind of how most of us tend to
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learn languages or typical people in the
western languages,
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but these kids,
they go out right from the start and
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they're getting that experience now.
Why is that good?
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If you're at home studying with a book
or you're in a classroom listening to
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your teacher and looking at the
Whiteboard,
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you're getting some sort of visual
input.
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You're getting some auditory input to
some extent.
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You're using those learning modalities,
but you're not really getting as much
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hands on kinesthetic experience of
actually using the language and feeling
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what it's like to use the language and
when you get out there in the real
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world,
in a real situation,
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it's very visually stimulating because
you're looking at an entire scene
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surrounding you.
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You're seeing different things.
You're seeing,
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you're hearing the real sounds of an
interaction that you have the real world
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around you.
It's not a simulated experience like you
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get with your textbook at home or in a
classroom.
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You're out there in the real world and
also you are getting the kinesthetic
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experience so you know what it feels
like to use the language and you get a
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certain emotional feeling when you
interact with that person and you also,
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you can feel physically what it's like
to use your body language and to
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actually physically interact with that
person you're communicating with.
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Now all of that creates a kind of a kind
of memory and experience that includes
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all of those different learning
modalities and it's much easier to
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remember than when you're learning just
from a book or from the classroom.
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I can remember experiences that I had
using languages years and years ago.
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I remember I have a memory of a
situation 15 years ago in Jerusalem when
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I was there studying Hebrew and Hebrew
course.
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An acquaintance of mine came into the
room and he said,
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what most of the MTA when I was studying
and and that means you're not finished
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yet.
And I said,
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Lord,
mostly empty.
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And they buy.
That means,
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no,
I'm not finished yet.
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I'm in the middle of studying.
I remember that interaction and I
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remember the whole scene.
I can see that room and I can see him
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come into the room and I can hear the
intonation in his voice and I remember
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kind of feeling taken aback by it.
The way he said it.
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It sounded like,
what?
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You're an idiot.
You're not finished yet.
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It was that kind of intonation.
So I remember that whole feeling of the
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experience.
Now that's the benefit of going out into
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the real world and really using the
language.
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You're encoding it into your physiology,
right?
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It's a kinesthetic experience that you
can recall as a memory.
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The memories are more powerful than
memorization.
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That's how I like to think of it.
Now,
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the third thing that these girls do well
is that their use of the language is
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very functional and it's goal oriented.
They're not just learning the language
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for the sake of learning it.
They're not just learning it so they can
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say,
Hey,
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I'm fluent in 10 languages.
It's not an ego based approach to
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learning.
They don't feel like they have to learn
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absolutely everything about the
language.
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What is their goal?
Their goal is to sell.
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That's their main function or main point
for using that language and that's what
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they focus on when they're learning.
So basically they want to sell to you
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and they're following a straight line
from meeting you to selling to you.
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The line ends when you buy something,
all of the language they learn is
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basically just language.
They need to follow that straight line
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and they can veer off the line a little
bit and have a little bit of chatting
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time with you and they can ask some
questions about where you're from and
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they can talk to you about some casual
topics,
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but when they get too far off of that
line too far away from their focused
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goal of selling to you,
then they probably aren't that good at
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communicating because that's not the.
That's not where they focus their
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studying and focus their attention.
So they'll always bring their attention
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back to that straight line of trying to
sell to you.
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Right.
And all of their language is focused
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around that.
So that's basically why they can speak
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10 different languages at such a young
age because they're not learning
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absolutely everything about the
language.
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They're learning the grammar and the
structure of the language basically.
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And they're learning the basic
vocabulary of language.
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Everything they need to sell to you and
to communicate with you and chat with
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you and build rapport with you.
And that kind of thing,
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but if you start talking about widely
divergent subjects that have nothing to
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do with the sale and nothing to do with
getting to know you well enough to make
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the sale happen,
then they're not going to be that good
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with the language.
So basically they're very focused on
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what they're using the language for and
they have the basic structures of the
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language in place.
So if in the future if they needed to
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learn it for a different function,
they can always add that extra
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vocabulary,
add those extra structures that they
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need on top of what they already know.
But they don't try to learn everything
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at once.
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They just learn what they need.
Right.
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So in terms of your study,
think about what you need to use the
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language for.
You really need to learn absolutely
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everything about the language or do you
just want to use it for a specific
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purpose?
Like getting to know friends,
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like making some friends,
being social in that language.
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Do you need to use it for a specific
business purpose?
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Do you need to write emails in that
language?
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Whatever your purpose is,
maybe you should focus on that rather
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than trying to tackle the entire
language in one big goal.
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Now it's also worth pointing out that
these kids don't really worry about
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perfection at all.
A lot of them speak with kind of funny
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grammar.
They don't speak accurately,
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but they communicate.
They understand you,
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you understand them,
so it's all good.
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They can achieve that goal that they
have for the language.
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Now,
the benefit that has for learning is
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that you don't slow yourself down.
You don't put yourself into a bit of a
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panic worrying about all the details and
worrying about perfection.
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Being a perfectionist can puts you in
into a non ideal learning state.
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It can make you stressed,
right?
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Anxiety and stresses the antithesis of
learning.
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You want to avoid it like the plague,
always relaxed.
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You can continue improving your accuracy
and continue to self monitor and fix
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your your mistakes and all that,
but don't worry about it.
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Just keep on learning and keep your goal
in your functions for the language in
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mind,
just like these girls do and you'll
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learn a lot better.
So what can we learn from the eight year
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old Bedouin kid?
Well,